We interviewed artist Kim Shaw regarding her 2022 Community Arts Award for Leadership in Education, and we interviewed Syd Bastos, the 2022 recipient of the Theodore C. Cooper Award for Distinguished Volunteer Service. Originally aired on Saturday, November 19, 2022, at 8 am on WKZO 590 Am and 106.5 FM in Kalamazoo, MI. Creative Cafe is a program of the Arts Council of Greater Kalamazoo.